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	<title>Comments on: The Coming Mother Of All Bailouts That Nobody Ever Talks About</title>
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		<title>By: Weekly Linkfest: Stress Test Edition &#124; Darwin's Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Linkfest: Stress Test Edition &#124; Darwin's Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 19:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] next bailout nobody&#8217;s talking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, it&#039;s impossible to save without earning.  Most people do have jobs, however (even despite record employment), and until about a year ago, almost everyone had a job yet nobody was saving.

A word about outsourcing... while nobody likes to get their job cut and outsourced, it&#039;s important to remember that this is reality in a global economy.  When your company outsources a part of their operation, it allows them to lower costs which allows them to be more competitive which maybe lets them keep YOUR job.  It&#039;s a shame that most people just view outsourcing as a way to put another million in the CEO&#039;s pocket.  The job of the CEO and management is to keep the company competitive and profitable.  Sometimes, this requires outsourcing.  What does a company look like when they lose their competitiveness and thus, profitability?  Look no further than GM or Chrysler.  Would you rather work for one of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, it&#8217;s impossible to save without earning.  Most people do have jobs, however (even despite record employment), and until about a year ago, almost everyone had a job yet nobody was saving.</p>
<p>A word about outsourcing&#8230; while nobody likes to get their job cut and outsourced, it&#8217;s important to remember that this is reality in a global economy.  When your company outsources a part of their operation, it allows them to lower costs which allows them to be more competitive which maybe lets them keep YOUR job.  It&#8217;s a shame that most people just view outsourcing as a way to put another million in the CEO&#8217;s pocket.  The job of the CEO and management is to keep the company competitive and profitable.  Sometimes, this requires outsourcing.  What does a company look like when they lose their competitiveness and thus, profitability?  Look no further than GM or Chrysler.  Would you rather work for one of them?</p>
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		<title>By: margharita</title>
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		<dc:creator>margharita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 08:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really pleased someone is raising this issue.  However, l agree with Tim&#039;s views.  When I think of the people I know in their 40s and 50s,  they are constantly treated by HR as though they are already old and past it.  This is absurd. Many of them look not much older than their early 30s and have a huge amount to offer. They&#039;re willing still to take on new challenges, are hip enough with IT  and often buzz with energy.  

Of course there are exceptions.  But more and more they are the exceptions... So when will society ( that means us too) wake up and realize what damage we are doing to ourselves by treating this age group as have-beens.  Society is creating enormous problems by not recognizing the self-destructive nature of ageism.  

Outsourcing is also contributing to the problem. Put bluntly,  how can people save in the first place if they do not earn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really pleased someone is raising this issue.  However, l agree with Tim&#8217;s views.  When I think of the people I know in their 40s and 50s,  they are constantly treated by HR as though they are already old and past it.  This is absurd. Many of them look not much older than their early 30s and have a huge amount to offer. They&#8217;re willing still to take on new challenges, are hip enough with IT  and often buzz with energy.  </p>
<p>Of course there are exceptions.  But more and more they are the exceptions&#8230; So when will society ( that means us too) wake up and realize what damage we are doing to ourselves by treating this age group as have-beens.  Society is creating enormous problems by not recognizing the self-destructive nature of ageism.  </p>
<p>Outsourcing is also contributing to the problem. Put bluntly,  how can people save in the first place if they do not earn.</p>
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		<title>By: Everyday Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Everyday Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simple; they&#039;ll close the gap in 20 years by &quot;taxing the rich&quot; and reducing our benefits (after we paid into the system in our early years; we&#039;ll see a negative ROI on our SS deductions).  Milk &#039;em for all their worth and since those at the top of the pay scale make up such a small portion of the voting population (while paying the majority of Federal taxes and SS revenues), the politicians don&#039;t care.  It&#039;s all about winning the next election via the populist policy move; not about right and wrong or fairness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s simple; they&#8217;ll close the gap in 20 years by &#8220;taxing the rich&#8221; and reducing our benefits (after we paid into the system in our early years; we&#8217;ll see a negative ROI on our SS deductions).  Milk &#8216;em for all their worth and since those at the top of the pay scale make up such a small portion of the voting population (while paying the majority of Federal taxes and SS revenues), the politicians don&#8217;t care.  It&#8217;s all about winning the next election via the populist policy move; not about right and wrong or fairness.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Success: A Dose Of Reality and Some Encouragement For All 20-Somethings &#124; 20s Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Success: A Dose Of Reality and Some Encouragement For All 20-Somethings &#124; 20s Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not the uber-rich lifestyle.  Unfortunately, I strongly believe that a great majority of people in our society will not have the means to retire without assistance from government or other sources. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not the uber-rich lifestyle.  Unfortunately, I strongly believe that a great majority of people in our society will not have the means to retire without assistance from government or other sources. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tell you the truth, I&#039;m strongly exploring the possibility of leaving the United States.  We&#039;ve strayed so far from the limited government described in the Constitution and when that causes disasters people just demand more government.  It&#039;s a death spiral that I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to recover from.  There are just too many people who were not properly educated about the founding who will never understand and will always vote for the politician who promises them the most.

Because of my extensive travels abroad I have a lot of friends and family in Asia.

If I can save enough money to live without working I will buy a condo in Makati City in the Philippines.  It&#039;s a very nice area and the real estate and cost of living is surprisingly cheap compared to the US.  It would be much easier to retire there than here.

If I still need to work I will probably go to Hong Kong.  Amazingly, the country is run by Communists and the tax burden is far lower than the US.  More and more companies will relocate there as the US ratchets down on Corporations due to misguided populism and a government that is burying itself in debt.

It hurts me to say this.  The Founding Documents of the United States describe the greatest government ever created and the last few generations have killed it.  I hope someone starts a new country using the Constitution as it&#039;s model.  If so, I&#039;ll move there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tell you the truth, I&#8217;m strongly exploring the possibility of leaving the United States.  We&#8217;ve strayed so far from the limited government described in the Constitution and when that causes disasters people just demand more government.  It&#8217;s a death spiral that I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to recover from.  There are just too many people who were not properly educated about the founding who will never understand and will always vote for the politician who promises them the most.</p>
<p>Because of my extensive travels abroad I have a lot of friends and family in Asia.</p>
<p>If I can save enough money to live without working I will buy a condo in Makati City in the Philippines.  It&#8217;s a very nice area and the real estate and cost of living is surprisingly cheap compared to the US.  It would be much easier to retire there than here.</p>
<p>If I still need to work I will probably go to Hong Kong.  Amazingly, the country is run by Communists and the tax burden is far lower than the US.  More and more companies will relocate there as the US ratchets down on Corporations due to misguided populism and a government that is burying itself in debt.</p>
<p>It hurts me to say this.  The Founding Documents of the United States describe the greatest government ever created and the last few generations have killed it.  I hope someone starts a new country using the Constitution as it&#8217;s model.  If so, I&#8217;ll move there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 04:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

TIPS are ok.  They do the job to an extent, yet remember they are based on the government&#039;s own inflation numbers, mainly the CPI, which I find to be very flawed.  Plus, I don&#039;t trust the government on inflation anyways.  But, this is a very long discussion.

If you really want inflation protection, you&#039;re better off with gold.  Gold is independent of any one government.  If you&#039;re weird about putting all your money in gold, consider buying some TIPS and some gold.

Check out GLD and the gold mining stocks (GDX, AUY, etc.) which will benefit from higher gold prices.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>TIPS are ok.  They do the job to an extent, yet remember they are based on the government&#8217;s own inflation numbers, mainly the CPI, which I find to be very flawed.  Plus, I don&#8217;t trust the government on inflation anyways.  But, this is a very long discussion.</p>
<p>If you really want inflation protection, you&#8217;re better off with gold.  Gold is independent of any one government.  If you&#8217;re weird about putting all your money in gold, consider buying some TIPS and some gold.</p>
<p>Check out GLD and the gold mining stocks (GDX, AUY, etc.) which will benefit from higher gold prices.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think about investing in TIPS? I&#039;ve been thinking about putting some of my investments in a TIPS based EFT. I&#039;d love to hear what you think about those. 

Also, my husband and I have been looking into opening a bank account overseas so some of our money is kept in another type of currency altogether. I see it as just another way to diversify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think about investing in TIPS? I&#8217;ve been thinking about putting some of my investments in a TIPS based EFT. I&#8217;d love to hear what you think about those. </p>
<p>Also, my husband and I have been looking into opening a bank account overseas so some of our money is kept in another type of currency altogether. I see it as just another way to diversify.</p>
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		<title>By: zeromoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeromoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 17:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$50,000-75,000????

that&#039;s amazing/remarkable/embarassing

I don&#039;t understand how anybody anywhere could ever want to rely 100% on someone else to provide their basic essentials needed to survive.

Canada probably isn&#039;t much better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$50,000-75,000????</p>
<p>that&#8217;s amazing/remarkable/embarassing</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how anybody anywhere could ever want to rely 100% on someone else to provide their basic essentials needed to survive.</p>
<p>Canada probably isn&#8217;t much better off.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or...... people should stop spending 105% of their paycheck.

by systematic degradation of our unions, do you refer to the demise of GM/Chrysler?  In those cases, you can have a strong union, but there will only be a handful of members since the business model is so terrible.  I don&#039;t blame the unions for fighting for their own interests, but don&#039;t complain if those interests impact profitability which impacts the number of employed workers there.

what do you propose is done about college education costs?  I got it... let&#039;s make college free!  Then, we can all be smart and rich!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or&#8230;&#8230; people should stop spending 105% of their paycheck.</p>
<p>by systematic degradation of our unions, do you refer to the demise of GM/Chrysler?  In those cases, you can have a strong union, but there will only be a handful of members since the business model is so terrible.  I don&#8217;t blame the unions for fighting for their own interests, but don&#8217;t complain if those interests impact profitability which impacts the number of employed workers there.</p>
<p>what do you propose is done about college education costs?  I got it&#8230; let&#8217;s make college free!  Then, we can all be smart and rich!</p>
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